Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!iuvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsp!gillies From: gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: environment's inventors Message-ID: <76000022@uiucdcsp> Date: Sun, 13-Sep-87 16:29:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcsp.76000022 Posted: Sun Sep 13 16:29:00 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Sep-87 04:04:57 EDT References: <841@cpocd2.UUCP> Lines: 18 Nf-ID: #R:cpocd2.UUCP:841:uiucdcsp:76000022:000:906 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu!gillies Sep 13 15:29:00 1987 Actually, with a sufficiently large screen (1K * 1K), overlapping windows ("Tiled") don't have a really big advantage. For instance, Xerox's STAR used tiled windows, but they were later replaced by overlapping windows. Xerox PARC's most sophisticated environment (Cedar) uses tiled windows today. When I worked in XDE at Xerox (1024*808 display), I always tiled my windows by hand. I'd use the overlapping-ness to cover up excess window window borders. This practice made overlapping windows provide a small fraction (10%?) more efficient use of the display. Maybe you can get this 10% back with a proper tiling design. Maybe tiling has a bad name because not many people have looked into the critical design issues (like how to nicely "uncover" objects in a root window, and how to have dozens of windows available with one mouse-click). Don Gillies {ihnp4!uiucdcs!gillies} University of Illinois