Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!aurora!labrea!jade!ucbvax!hoptoad!tim From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MacNosy and "The Debugger" Message-ID: <2962@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Tue, 15-Sep-87 08:57:23 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2962 Posted: Tue Sep 15 08:57:23 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Sep-87 02:40:27 EDT References: <7019@dartvax.UUCP> <1214@csib.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Organization: Centram Systems, Berkeley Lines: 19 Thanks for the comments on Jasik's Debugger. I have been curious ever since his article/ad in MacTutor, and now I know: stay away. It's slow, it's completely useless for anything I do since it's incompatible with Appletalk, and it has a Jasik user interface. Nosy has quite literally the worst user interface I have ever used. Even if you make allowances for "first Mac program", it's still amazingly bad. I hoped that he'd straightened up for his debugger, but apparently not. But I didn't fork an emacs to bitch about Jasik. Has anyone heard of any plans to create a MultiFinder-based debugger? Now that Apple has finally upgraded their system software to the state of the art at the time of the Mac's introduction, a real debugger application should be possible, not one of these TSR-type hacks. An application-based debugger shouldn't be any more fragile than an above-BufPtr one, and the user interface benefits are obvious. Not only that, it should be much easier to develop the debugger. Any interesting rumors along these lines? -- Tim Maroney, {ihnp4,sun,well,ptsfa,lll-crg}!hoptoad!tim (uucp) hoptoad!tim@lll-crg (arpa)