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From: richard@islenet.UUCP (Richard Foulk)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Re: termcap/terminfo stupidity?
Message-ID: <3497@islenet.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 8-Sep-87 00:14:34 EDT
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Posted: Tue Sep  8 00:14:34 1987
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In article <4476@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) writes:
>
> Wyse terminals are properly described as "even more braindamaged than
> Televideos".  [...]

God.  Nothing's worse than a Televideo.

> 
> Wyse has other problems.  I can hang a Wyse 50 to the point that the power has
> to be cycled to fix it by sending it VT100 control codes.  (Happened a lot at

Try hitting control-setup.  Unfortunately, most terminals have a
lock-keyboard sequence, at least the Wyse lets you unlock from the
keyboard if you know the trick.

> TDI:  they have both, and move them around periodically.  And no reason for it
> in the control codes; <ESC> [ is a cursor position command.)  I have yet to
> see a Wyse terminal with the yoke on straight (the text looks like the Leaning
> Tower of Pisa).  The stupid handling of attributes has already been mentioned;
> with memory so cheap nowadays, *why* can't they release a terminal which does
> attributes right???  After all, it's not as if they don't build new models
> 

The Wyse-50 isn't perfect.  But it is cheap, and it's fast as hell.  We
run ours at 38.4K baud with handshaking turned off, fed by lightly loaded
full-DMA ports with no problems.  Sure is nice.

> I, personally, will take a cheap PC clone running Procomm over a Wyse
> so-called "VT100 compatible" any day.  It's cheaper, and the attributes
> are done _right_.

Now that's one that'll make you wait all day for a screen-full to scroll.


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Richard Foulk		...{dual,vortex,ihnp4}!islenet!richard
Honolulu, Hawaii