Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ATHENA.MIT.EDU!swick From: swick@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ralph R. Swick) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Comment on Release Notes for X Version 11 Release 1 Message-ID: <8709181211.AA06086@LYRE.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 18-Sep-87 08:11:33 EDT Article-I.D.: LYRE.8709181211.AA06086 Posted: Fri Sep 18 08:11:33 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Sep-87 01:53:36 EDT References: <8709170307.AA21295@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 31 Had your phones been as busy as ours the past few months, you might feel differently about our schedule. The figurative "gun" in this case was the outside world; we are being swamped with requests to "send everything you can". We would have liked very much to be able to take another month or two to clean things up, however in real time those 2 months would have required 6 while we responded to more requests for information/pre-releases. Somewhere in the editing process I had a paragraph about not expecting XV11R1 to be as shaken-out as XV10R4. The version 11 protocol is a significant change/improvement over the version 10 protocol. Re-shaping applications to take advantage of the new protocol is not an over-night process. We fully expect that it will take another release or two before all the new kinks are worked out. While we are not enthusiastic about some of the compromises we had to make (i.e. sending multiple versions of several libraries), we are confident that this release does meet the "useability" objective. We are also confident that the interfaces at the server and Xlib level, which are the critical ones for application portability, are robust and that it will be several years (cross your fingers) before another cataclysm is required. Were we a commercial organization instead of an academic one, we would not have slipped the release either; we simply wouldn't have told you about all the bugs. :-) As to waiting until Release 2 - it's your choice, but from the mail we've been getting, you'll be pretty lonely. -Ralph