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From: davidsen@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP (William E. Davidsen Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,news.admin
Subject: Re: time to make a new newsgroup, filk
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Date: Wed, 9-Sep-87 13:02:16 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep  9 13:02:16 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 11-Sep-87 05:39:02 EDT
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Summary: who appointed you god?
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In article <1121@gilsys.UUCP> mc68020@gilsys.UUCP (Thomas J Keller) writes:
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|   I am not interested in uPort information, as I do not make the silly 
|mistake of operating on INTEL based pseudo-computers.

Since most of the Xenix in the world is now run on Intel based
computers, why don't you either (a) shut up, or (b) form a group called
unix.xenix.obsolete68k?

|                                                       I have noted that
|>>50% of the articles on this newsgroup are uPort related.  I think it's
|wonderful that someone like uPort is creating an operating system with some
|usefulness for your pseudo-computers, but *I DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT IT*!

Do us all a favor and press the "U" key, and you won't have to.

|   I therefore formally propose the formation of comp.unix.uPort, to provide
|a forum for the obviously significant audience interested in that topic.  
|Given the traffic patterns in comp.unix.xenix for the past few months, I 
|see no reason to take a vote.  It seems to me that the group ought simply
|to be formed.  In fact, if someone else HASN'T formed it by Sept. 8, I will
|take the responsibility for so doing.

Just what we need, another news group. The problem is not with the
*content* of this group, but the *name*. It is really concerned with
running UNIX on microcomputers, and I would just as soon not have to
read a Xenix68k, Xenix286, Xenix386, uport286, and uport386 group to
keep up with the developments in the "small UNIX" area. The MicroPort
information is valuable for comparison, and since too many things would
get cross posted.
|
|   (seriously, I should apologize for my processor bigottry, and I do (sort
|    of).  But the uPort people *DO* need their own forum, now.)

You certainly should. Xenix on the 68k is a minority now, and getting
more so every day. It doesn't matter if you like (or I like it) or if
it's a "good thing," that's the way it is... UNIX for the masses on
cheap boxes.

The next thing you will want to do is split off the 386 users, because
we don't have a segmented address space problem.  Renaming this group
might (or might not) be a good idea, but if there is a cadre of elitist
users who are not interested in how the low budget crowd does things,
let *them* form a new group. 

|-- 
|Tom Keller 
|VOICE  : + 1 707 575 9493
|UUCP   : {ihnp4,ames,sun,amdahl,lll-crg,pyramid}!ptsfa!gilsys!mc68020

Sorry to go off like this, but to have someone decide without a vote
that a new newsgroup is needed, and who shall be brushed aside from his
favorite group, pisses me off beyond all belief.
-- 
	bill davidsen		(wedu@ge-crd.arpa)
  {uunet | philabs | seismo}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen
"Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me