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From: gsmith@oreo (Gene Ward Smith)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Censorship (was Re: I ain't afraid of no Batwoman)
Message-ID: <1218@cartan.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Fri, 4-Sep-87 05:10:35 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep  4 05:10:35 1987
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In article <864@gt-stratus.UUCP> chen@gt-stratus.UUCP (Ray Chen) writes:

>I seriously doubt any news administrator will implement Nobody's
>suggestion.  Otherwise we would have started long ago, probably
>with Rich Rosen :-).  (Does he still post or have I been avoiding
>the right groups?  :-)  


  Yes he does, and is pretty calm and reasonable these days to boot.


>Knowledge of how to selectively nuke people's postings/mail
>has been around for a long time and "let's kick so-and-so off
>the net" has been tried many times (anyone still remember rjv and
>Jeff Sargent?  A truly masterful flame.) and has always failed.

  Has it? It seems to me I've seen it work.

>Once upon a time, a school tried to shut down Tim Maroney.  If
>Tim Maroney can still post to the net, I think Cheryl's safe.


  If Tim Maroney can still post then nobody is safe, because if
he doesn't like you he will mail your boss with threats of
lawsuits.  This is no joke, I am afraid. Matthew Wiener is gone
to Philadelphia in high dudgeon, his math/stat accounts (but not
violet.berkeley.edu) terminated with extreme prejudice. Even I,
his long-time office-mate and partner in crime do not know the
whole story, but the rumor is that Tim Maroney's paranoid ravings
were at least partly the cause. So I may be next.

  Meanwhile, Tim just posted an article abusively flaming someone
and boasting that the use of LSD has raised his IQ. One might
ask, how can such things be? The answer seems to be that not all
sites are equal, and Tim in hoptoad has a very liberal site. Ours
is not so liberal.

>So y'all go on home.

  ... and wait for Tim to go after *you*. 

   Matthew will probably be most annoyed to see me wash all this
in public, but C'est la guerre. The notion that censorship is not
attempted and sometimes succeeds is a pleasant delusion, but it is
a delusion nonetheless.

Gene Ward Smith/ Borrowed Time@Berkeley/ bosco.berkeley.edu, I hope





ucbvax!brahms!gsmith    Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
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