Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!bellcore!faline!ulysses!sfmag!sfsup!mingus From: mingus@sfsup.UUCP (Damballah Wedo) Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.classical,rec.music.folk,rec.music.makers,rec.misc,news.misc Subject: Re: Not all West Coast Jazz is "cool" Message-ID: <2000@sfsup.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Sep-87 17:52:52 EDT Article-I.D.: sfsup.2000 Posted: Fri Sep 4 17:52:52 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Sep-87 04:13:54 EDT References: <7917@shemp.UCLA.EDU> <3306@sdcc6.ucsd.EDU> <810@cod.UUCP> <27108@sun.uucp> <814@cod.UUCP> Reply-To: mingus@sfsup.UUCP (Damballah Wedo) Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor Lines: 25 Xref: mnetor rec.music.misc:5781 rec.music.classical:1108 rec.music.folk:617 rec.music.makers:811 rec.misc:401 news.misc:893 > rupp@cod.nosc.mil.UUCP (William L. Rupp) (in <814@cod.UUCP>): > Well, I am only a long-time (since junior high school in mid-fifties) > fan, not a jazz expert, so I accept your comments on the West Coast > crowd as worthy of consideration. I know that the early fifties Gerry > Mulligan, Shorty Rogers, Dave Bruebeck, Chet Baker approach to jazz is > not highly thought of in many quarters, but it's one of my favorites. I reject blanket statements condemning West Coast jazzers as a bunch of white wimps who, in Sonny Stitt's phrase, "don't even sweat." First, they were not all white; see Hampton Hawes and Harold Land and Buddy Collette, for starters. Second, there is nothing wimpy about Mulligan's sound. You can have Chet Baker, and you can definitely have Dave Brubeck, but you absolutely can't have Art Pepper, a brilliant alto saxophonist. Pepper is not too well known because heroin addiction and subsequent prison and hospital stays kept him off the scene for 15 years. There are many others. A recent article in the (New York) Village Voice spends several pages detailing the Los Angeles bebop scene, *before* Charlie Parker went to California in 1947 (and had a nervous breakdown and had to be hospitalized, which led to "Relaxin' at Camarillo" and "Cool Blues", to provide some run-on trivia). -- Marcel-Franck Simon attunix!mingus Min pouki sa tout moun ap mande'-m' ki sa siyati-moin vle' di?