Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!BOSCO.BERKELEY.EDU!gsmith From: gsmith@BOSCO.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: news.misc,soc.net-people,soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Libertarian Theory and Libertarian Practice: A Portrait From Life Message-ID: <8709180834.AA26333@ronzoni> Date: Fri, 18-Sep-87 04:34:54 EDT Article-I.D.: ronzoni.8709180834.AA26333 Posted: Fri Sep 18 04:34:54 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Sep-87 17:44:27 EDT References: <8709070142.AA00636@ragu> <1520@chinet.UUCP> <8709130104.AA11330@ragu> <1554@chinet.UUCP> <341@ddsw1.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: ronzoni!gsmith (Gene Ward Smith) Organization: Bosco Gang Chocolate Center Lines: 32 Keywords: Libertarianism, Judaism, Censorship Xref: utgpu news.misc:800 soc.net-people:394 soc.culture.jewish:2548 In article <341@ddsw1.UUCP> era@ddsw1.UUCP (Mark Ethan Smith) writes: >In article <1554@chinet.UUCP> rhonda@chinet.UUCP (Rhonda Scribner) writes: >>>>Gene has tried to make this into a political argument, claiming that the >>>>issue is "libertarianism." >It is totally irrelevant that the people who censored me and harassed >me and eventually succeeded in getting my password pulled on the Well >and on Chinet were mostly Libertarians and that I happen to be Jewish. >It is only a coincidence that the only people who get their passwords >pulled by usenet sites happen to be Jewish, and that the people who do it >happen to be Libertarians who, except in the case of Jews, pretend to >advocate "absolute free speech." For the record and in the possibly mistaken belief that someone might be interested I should like to say: (1) Matthew Wiener's net-access problems have nothing to do with his ethnicity. (2) Rhonda to the contrary, I was not writing "diatribes" against Libertarianism, but asking certain questions relating to the nature of its commitment to liberty. (3) While I often disagree with what Mark Ethan Smith has to say, I think he should be allowed to continue saying it. If Libertarians kicked him off that would seem to add to my problems and questions about this philosophy. I hope my making this remark is not taken to be another "diatribe". "This paragraph is why I have felt free to insult you." -- Tim Maroney ucbvax!bosco!gsmith Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720