Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!ron From: ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) Newsgroups: rec.audio,sci.physics,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Mercury Filled Speaker Wire Message-ID: <14700@topaz.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 14-Sep-87 08:18:13 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.14700 Posted: Mon Sep 14 08:18:13 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Sep-87 04:42:22 EDT References: <3816@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> <578@uthub.toronto.edu> <1700@crash.CTS.COM> Distribution: rec Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 56 Xref: mnetor rec.audio:3225 sci.physics:2162 sci.electronics:1291 > Apart from the varying > conductivity of different metals, the shape and size of the conductors, > how many of them and their plating, all affect the flow of electrons, > especially when the currents are alternating and the frequency of > alternations (read that: your typical audio signal) varying. I don't think anyone was arguing this point. The point was the difference in using Mercury vs. Copper was more likely to be things like the difference in size and spacing than the nature of the metal itself. (By the way, I don't think plating really helps anything at audio frequencies except for where the wire is exposed to the air). > Phase noise is a degrading by-product of a larger cable problem known > as 'delay distortion'. Instead of passing energy uniformly, non-nuetral > cable actually stores energy, subsequently releasing this energy -- at > the wrong time, and often out-of-phase. Such cables have a large > 'settling time', which means that as a signal passes through these > cables, substantial information is left behind. This cracks me up everytime I read these smokescreen Stereophile stuff. If HiFi addicts would just learn a little about electronics they could discuss things sensibly in the terms that everyone else uses. This temporary storage/blockage of energy in a frequency dependent nature is called REACTANCE. Not only is this caused by size and spacing of conductors but is also effected by loops in the cable. Reactance when combined with plain old DC resistance (constant with respect to frequency) is called IMPEDANCE (gee, haven't I heard that term before?) In addition to the frequency response problems that it generates, impedance plays a significant factor in the performance of your power amplifiers. Despite the nominal impedences given of 4 or 8 ohms, remember that this is frequency dependent. The cable/speaker has it's impedance characturistics and amplifiers have their best performance characturistics. This is why speakers need to be matched to the amplifiers. freqencies at the same speed for our purposes. > As discussed, these frequency dependent delays move > energy from one location in a complex waveform to another. Frequency dependent delays are phase changes (probably). My favorite was the discussion of using a single DAC in CD players and how this causes a phase shift between the two channels. Even worse, a frequency dependent one. That's because it was a (non-frequency dependent) DELAY, which is easily corrected for. Note that nothing they say is probably really wrong with respect to what is probably happening to the audible sound, but it would be MUCH nicer if they would learn the electronics principles when describing the electronic parts (it is probably not possible to characturize the audible sensations, which is another issue). -Ron