Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!boulder!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.physics Subject: Re: barometric pressure transducer ideas needed Message-ID: <2013@kitty.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-Sep-87 17:14:50 EDT Article-I.D.: kitty.2013 Posted: Thu Sep 17 17:14:50 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Sep-87 15:48:16 EDT References: <1790@sputnik.COM> <14816@topaz.rutgers.edu> Distribution: na Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 60 Summary: Cheap shot, but amusing... Xref: mnetor sci.electronics:1338 sci.physics:2198 In article <14816@topaz.rutgers.edu>, ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) writes: > You ought to be able to fabricate one out of some mercury filled > speaker cables. Haha! That was a cheap shot, but was quite amusing. Actually, there is a grain of truth in what you said. If you take a glass tube about 34 inches long and sealed at one end, fill it with mercury and carefully invert it into a small cup of mercury (say, 25 cc), you can create a "traditional" mercury barometer. It is rather easy to measure the height of the mercury column using capacitance measurement (I'd consider using a 1 MHz measurement frequency). To create such a variable capacitor, carefully cover about 6 inches of the outside of the glass tube with tightly wrapped aluminum foil. The aluminum foil should be tightly wrapped around the glass tube to assure uniform contact, and then fixed in position with cement or varnish at its seam and at the ends. The aluminum foil should be centered around the "measurement range" (say, +/- from 28 inches). The other end of the capacitor is formed by placing a wire in the mercury reservoir. It would be a good idea to shield the completed mercury barometer using metal screening (keep out RFI, and prevent the radiation of the capacitance bridge excitation frequency). For practical purposes, barometric pressure is a linear function of measured capacitance using _this_ technique (there are other ways to create a capacitance barometer using mercury, but this is the simplest). There are a number of bridge circuits available to measure capacitance which will give you a voltage output; there are also circuits which operate on other principles, such as changing the frequency of an oscillator which in turn feeds a frequency-voltage converter, etc. Concerning the hazards of mercury: Mercury is a toxic substance if ingested or inhaled as vapor. However, there is nothing inherently unsafe about building such a mercury barometer, PROVIDED: 1. You work with the mercury within a large, shallow pan to entrain any accidental spillage. 2. You are careful not to spill any mercury, and you thoroughly wash your hands after handling any items which may have been in contact with mercury. 3. You keep the mercury barometer in a ventilated, but secure location where children or pets have no direct access. 4. You place the mercury barometer within another vessel of sufficient capacity to contain the mercury should the glass column or reservoir be broken. Since you are measuring barometric pressure, the safest place to use such a barometer is to place it outdoors in a locked container attached to the ground or to a building. The container should be ventilated, but not enough allow precipitation to enter the container and create capacitance surement artifacts. Of course, if you feel that mercury is too hazardous, you can always use water instead. But then you'd need a tube about 35 feet high... :-) <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {hplabs|ihnp4|mtune|seismo|utzoo}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"