Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!amdahl!uunet!rosevax!carole From: carole@rosevax.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: announcement of alt.cyberpunk Message-ID: <2558@rosevax.Rosemount.COM> Date: Thu, 24-Sep-87 19:35:51 EDT Article-I.D.: rosevax.2558 Posted: Thu Sep 24 19:35:51 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Sep-87 08:11:42 EDT References: <1634@aramis.rutgers.edu< Organization: Rosemount Inc., Eden Prairie, MN Lines: 26 Keywords: opening message In article <1634@aramis.rutgers.edu<, webber@aramis.rutgers.edu (Bob Webber) writes: < < alt.cyberpunk : The term cyberpunk in 1987 generally denoted an futuristic < approach to the interaction between people and computers < that has motivated novels such as William Gibson's < ``Neuromancer'' and Vernor Vinge's ``Peace War'' as well as < movies such as ``BladeRunner'' and ``TRON.'' As the < present rushes into the future, this vision has also found < expression in works of nonfiction such as Steward Brand's < ``The Media Lab.'' This newsgroup was formed formed as a < meeting grounds for people who are interested in this vision, < regardless of the media in which it is expressed or whether < the expression is fictional or nonfictional. The group < is not moderated. All are welcome. < < < --------- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber) Well, OK. But I think if you're going to pick something by Vinge as an example of cyberpunk it should be TRUE NAMES rather than the rather (pardon the pun) peripheral computer involvement in THE PEACE WAR. How about VALENTINA by Haldeman and who was that? Carole Ashmore