Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!rutgers!who.rutgers.edu!brothers From: brothers@who.rutgers.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: Early Cyberpunk? Message-ID: <1375@who.rutgers.edu> Date: Sun, 27-Sep-87 09:22:29 EDT Article-I.D.: who.1375 Posted: Sun Sep 27 09:22:29 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Sep-87 06:35:45 EDT References: <946@jumbo.dec.com> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 26 Keywords: cyberpunk vs. cyberprep You guys don't seem to understand that cyberPUNK is more than the technology of jacking into a computer. The stories I would classify as cyberpunk all take a very rough-edged view of the moderately near future, basically taking a strong stand against "niceness" in all its reprehensible forms. Gibson, for example, and his imitators, are almost Chandleresque in the brutal description of the worlds they envision. Kim Kinnison, however, is the very avatar of niceness (well, nice to everyone except zwilniks, there is a limit...). Similarly, many of the characters in True Names are much too nice to be real people (remember, "nice" <> "compassionate"; being nice means having the *appearance* of being compassionate). The cyberprep movement (such as it is, ha ha) takes as its motto: "Whatever you do, remember, be polite". On the other hand, cyberpunk seems to have nothing to do with the punk movement itself, so.... -- Laurence R. Brothers brothers@paul.rutgers.edu {anywhere}!rutgers!paul.rutgers.edu!brothers "One life -- one arrow."