Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!brandx.rutgers.edu!webber From: webber@brandx.rutgers.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: who does it... Message-ID: <381@brandx.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 28-Sep-87 00:46:12 EDT Article-I.D.: brandx.381 Posted: Mon Sep 28 00:46:12 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Sep-87 00:43:56 EDT References: <4319@spool.wisc.edu> <3036@hoptoad.uucp> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 36 Summary: 1968 ain't so long ago In article <3036@hoptoad.uucp>, laura@hoptoad.uucp (Laura Creighton) writes: > My vote for earliest cyberpunk goes to Samuel Delaney's *Nova*. > Anybody have an earlier one? Actually, they are reprinting Rudy Rucker's Software (1982) these days and on the cover they claim that this is the novel that started Cyberpunk. Nova dates back to 1968. Norman Kagan's short story The Mathenauts (1965) clearly raises some deep issues wrt interfaces. Alan Nourse's The Universe Between (1951,1965) fits vaguely in. In Fred Hoyle's Ossian's Ride (1959), I.C.E. was the Industrial Corporation of Eire. The device for interfacing with the Krell's knowledge in Forbidden Planet (1956) has some potential. Henry Kuttner's 1943 short story Mimsy Were the Borogroves also raises some questions as to just what is a computer and what does it mean to interface with it. For those who prefer to stress a ``gritty world view,'' it is perhaps worth remembering the story of the optimist who said this was the best of all possible worlds and the pessimist who agreed. On the nonfiction side, this month's Scientific American is dedicated to advanced computers and has an article on interfaces. -------- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber) p.s., The publisher of Stewart Brand's The Media Lab is Viking Press, ISBN 0-670-81442-3