Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!yetti!oz From: oz@yetti.UUCP (Ozan Yigit) Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: who does it... Message-ID: <172@yetti.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-Oct-87 13:59:19 EDT Article-I.D.: yetti.172 Posted: Sat Oct 3 13:59:19 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Oct-87 04:16:41 EDT References: <4319@spool.wisc.edu> Reply-To: oz@yetti.UUCP (Ozan Yigit) Organization: York U. Computer Science Lines: 27 In article <4319@spool.wisc.edu> bart@speedy.UUCP writes: >What about Brunner's "Shockwave Rider". Not as surrealistic as Gibson, >but has the techo-hackers, futuristic views, decaying civlization, and >changing social structures. > --bart miller Good example. Probably the earliest book I know of CyberPunk is Vernor Vinge's short "TRUE NAMES". Gibson borrowed liberally from Vinge's earlier vision, and brought it to a genre-of-its-own. I think Brunner's SHOCKWARE RIDER is in a gray area, sort of literati-edition-cyberpunk. The really interesting thing to watch for, in my opinion, is how well do these authors treat sociological issues as well as the technical ones. Some of the CyberP authors do well, and but I am convinced that many authors who will inevitably jump into this category know zip all about computer science/technology (you need to know a great deal to extrapolate properly) and its possible sociological impact. It would be sad to see the field degenerate into Techno-Nonsense, or CyberFantasy. oz -- You see things, and you say "WHY?" Usenet: [decvax|ihnp4]!utzoo!yetti!oz But I dream things that never were; ......!seismo!mnetor!yetti!oz and say "WHY NOT?" Bitnet: oz@[yusol|yulibra|yuyetti] [Back To Methuselah] Bernard Shaw Phonet: [416] 736-5257 x 3976