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Subject: Out of control (was Re: Bear novel)
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Tim Maroney, <3013@hoptoad.uucp>, in rec.arts.sf-lovers:

> Well, Oleg, at least some of us noticed that all you said was that Bear
> wasn't a genius.  If that's a nasty, spiteful insult, then the muppets are
> genocidal.  I can't think of any SF writer I would consider a genius in this
> century.

When was this ever characterized as a nasty, spiteful insult by anyone
besides yourself? Chuq simply came to the defense of Greg Bear (a personal
friend?) which is quite acceptable, especially as Bear has no net access
that I know of. Oleg also acknowledged that this was "not a very nice thing
to say." Have you had professional training in blowing things out of proportion
or is it a natural talent?

> Chuq is really out of control these days.

As are Tim Maroney, Mark Ethan Smith, Gene Ward Smith, and Rhonda Scribner?
Come off it, half of the network seems to be out of control.

>                                            Not only did he flame you
> outrageously for nothing in particular, he has started posting inaccurate
> little digs at Locus that have almost nothing to do with what he's talking
> about at the time, since I mentioned my tangential connections with the
> magazine.

Well, Tim, I guess you've got me there. I've certainly never seen anyone else,
and most definitely not you, posting little digs that have nothing to do with
the topic at hand. In fact.. could this be one here? Oh dear, I better re-read
my "Tim Maroney Netiquette Handbook," and soon.

Has anybody noticed how rampant paranoia has been on the net lately?

Here, Maroney is convinced that Chuq personally dislikes him because of
an ephemeral connection with Locus magazine. Got any proof, Timmy?

I'm surprised Mark Ethan Smith even gets out of bed in the morning,
considering all the paranoia he has been expressing lately. We have anti-
semitics pulling his accounts on two systems. We have chauvinistic UNIX
wizards deliberately contriving to insure that he is not allowed to post
to soc.women from Berkeley. Well, don't worry, Mark, some of us really ARE
out to get you. And, of course, all of us who are after you are men.

>            He's also taken up recommending that everyone KILL-file anyone
> Chuq dislikes or feels threatened by.

Chuq is quite free to recommend anything he wants to. That does not mean that
the public-at-large is in any way compelled to FOLLOW those recommendations.

>                                        It would be nice if people would try
> a little harder to keep their personality problems off the net.

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?
-- 
Bill Wisner, HASA			..ihnp4!killer!billw

'An it harms none, do what thou will.'
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