Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ptsfa!ihnp4!homxb!homxc!halle
From: halle@homxc.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Mark Ethan Smith: For real?
Message-ID: <1522@homxc.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 2-Oct-87 13:58:21 EDT
Article-I.D.: homxc.1522
Posted: Fri Oct  2 13:58:21 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 3-Oct-87 12:37:33 EDT
References: <1535@epimass.EPI.COM> <21054@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel
Lines: 31

In article <21054@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) writes:
> In the referenced article, jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) writes:
> 	Yes, MES's attack against Berkeley news administrators was
> 	unjustified.  But he has been booted from two systems in
                          ^^
> 	the past and treated unfairly at others.  A little paranoia
> 	is not surprising given the history.  And given that he is
                                                             ^^
> 	charged money for use of violet.berkeley.edu and his only
                                                         ^^^
> 	use of the system is for news and mail, it seems reasonable
> 	for him to expect that they will be maintained.
            ^^^
> Mark may be paying for the use of violet, but that payment does
> not mean any guarantee of netnews service; as both Mike Meyer and
> I noted, netnews at the UCB Computer Center is an unsupported
> software system, maintained by Mike when he has time out from his
> other official duties.
> 
> If Mark wants guaranteed netnews service, he should petition Academic
                                            ^^
> Computing Services to make netnews an officially supported service.
> As it stands, if netnews breaks or misbehaves on the Computer Center
> systems, it will be fixed when someone can get around to it.

Is she (yes, I said SHE) around again?  I thought we had finally gotten
a little decorum on the net.  Time to expand my kill file.  The fact that
she was booted from TWO systems speaks volumes.  And don't you find it even
a little suspicious that she was treated "unfairly" on probably every system
that had the misfortune to give her access?  Isn't it possible that she's
the problem and not the System Administrators?