Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ihnp4!ucbvax!GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU!gsmith From: gsmith@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.flame Subject: Re: Maroney Archives, vol I Message-ID: <8710100655.AA17270@garnet.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 10-Oct-87 02:55:41 EDT Article-I.D.: garnet.8710100655.AA17270 Posted: Sat Oct 10 02:55:41 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Oct-87 01:07:29 EDT References: <8710030730.AA26085@garnet.berkeley.edu> <3137@hoptoad.uucp> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: gsmith@garnet.berkeley.edu (Gene W. Smith) Organization: Garnet Gang Gems of Wisdom, Inc. Lines: 66 In article <3137@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: >I gave permission for my letters to the postmaster to be posted. I did not >give permission for the articles which Matthew wrote to be posted, and >because of their harrassing nature, I would prefer that they not be. You gave me permission to post the letters you sent, which happen to include the articles. You sent them, so I posted them. Anyway, I don't think I *need* your permission to re-post articles which were once publically posted, anyway. I certainly don't agree that I should post your letters without doing so *fully*, including exactly and comprehensively the "evidence" you saw fit to provide. >However, Smith has posted a few of them, less than half, and those >deliberately chosen to be the mildest and the least insulting by proportion. People who wonder why I call Tim Maroney a bare-faced, utterly despicable LIAR should read the above, and then consider that what I have been doing is posting all his letters, in their entirity, in chronological order. I am quite willing to continue to do so, but I insist that I do so comprehensivly, with only the stuff like letters of the sysadmin to the chairman of the computer committee, etc. left out (i.e., the stuff I have no permission to use.) >This puts me in a problematic sitaution. I don't want to see the worst >flames posted again; yet Smith has presented a picture that is totally >lopsided, and the only way to correct it would be for him to post the rest >of the messages. Sorry Tim, what I have posted has been complete, unedited, and 100% accurate up to the date I quit. If you don't like it, blame yourself. You chose the contents, my editorializing aside. >I will have to think about this for a few days before >deciding how to respond, if at all. My response is that it looks to me you now realize you went to far, told manifest lies, and made a fool of yourself, and perhaps are just beginning to realize how all this makes you look. >By the way, Monsieur Perlow alias the Gadfly, I must admit that I am >disappointed in you. You do not read most of the groups involved, from what >I've seen; you presumably are aware of previous Smith's lies about the >nature of my complaints, by saying that I asked for Wiener's account to be >removed because of a single incident of name calling; yet you fail to put >two and two together and realize that Smith is not telling the whole story >here. I never said "one incident of name calling", I merely left unstated how much name-calling might be involved. Document the above, if you are able. By the way, do you still maintain your loathesome and despicable LIE about trying to settle this peacefully with us, sending me mail and getting same back? Do you still claim I was conspiring against you and was constanty writing bad things about you? Now I *am* writing bad things about you, the most telling being those you yourself wrote. Do you like it better now that you really are in a flame war with me, Captain Carnage? I've already ppublished a letter where you ask for my account to be removed. How many incidents of name calling (if "ayuck ayuck" even qualifies as name-calling) lead to that request, Mr. Student of Hitler's Big Lie Technique? LIAR. ucbvax!garnet!gsmith Gene Ward Smith/Garnet Gang/Berkeley CA 94720 "Some people, like Chuq and Matt Wiener, naturally arouse suspicion by behaving in an obnoxious fashion." -- Timothy Maroney, aka Mr. Mellow