Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!rutgers!mit-eddie!zrm From: zrm@mit-eddie.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.flame Subject: Re: Lieing to get a job (offensive assumptions) Message-ID: <7132@eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 10-Oct-87 18:31:07 EDT Article-I.D.: eddie.7132 Posted: Sat Oct 10 18:31:07 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Oct-87 01:08:24 EDT References: <957@bc-cis.UUCP> <1839@tekig5.TEK.COM> Reply-To: zrm@eddie.MIT.EDU (Zigurd R. Mednieks) Organization: MIT, EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA Lines: 25 I'm sorry if the turns of phrase I have used are raising people's hackles. Some people don't see that questions like "Would you work in a nuclear power plant?" cut both ways. Here in the People's Republic of Cambridge, you might be considered a nut if you said yes. Also, the main point is not whether defense contractors should hire pro-defense employees, but that all employers have the right to hire employees that are in tune with the strategic aims of the employer. The discussion grew out of an example in the defense industry, but it holds equally true in energy, medicine, or any other industry where the views of employees may have an impact on the success of the company. Another issue is that potential hires do communicate, willingly or not, with their wardrobe, their grooming, their jewelry and their speaking style. Again, this cuts both ways. Some people don't believe any really creative computer people know how to dress themselves or speak clear English. Their hiring decisions are just as irrational as the decisions of those who can never see beyond the beard and ill- fitting suit. So flame off and keep these issues in mind. I hope I've done my part in restating the points clearly. If anyone disagrees, speak up! -Zigurd