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From: jwl@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Rhonda, Professional Adult
Message-ID: <20869@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: Sun, 20-Sep-87 03:21:56 EDT
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Posted: Sun Sep 20 03:21:56 1987
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In article <8709200017.AA01337@ragu> ragu!gsmith (Gene Ward Smith) writes:
-In article <20867@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> jwl@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (James Wilbur Lewis) writes:
->PUT UP or SHUT UP?
-
- Put WHAT up? What the hell is it you want, anyway?

Well, Rhonda made a very reasonable request that you post some of those
terrible, nasty, threatening letters that pesky ol' Timmy has been writing
so that we can judge your accusations and complaints for ourselves.
You plead "violation of netiquette", claim "I'm not inclined to explain,
anyway", and complain about Rhonda's "spiteful speculations".  What's
the matter, are you afraid that if you post the letters you'll be laughed
off the net?   Seems to me that if these letters are so obviously foolish,
TIM would be the one to be shamefully discredited, which seemed to be the
intent of the Brahms Gang side of the flame war.  (There is precedent
for posting abusive email, as evidenced by Amy Gorin's repost of private
mail sent by jl@fornax, and the favorable (to Amy) reaction from the
bulk of the respondents in soc.women.)  So what's stopping you?

->I've seen enough spiteful speculation emanating
->from the Brahms Gang (yes, with YOUR name attached...like that
->'Tim Maroney quiz')  to know that this is a clear case of the pot
->calling the kettle black.
-
-  Since that quiz was posted *after* Maroney began his attempt to nuke
-my account and not by me (appearences can be deceiving with the Gang)
-I am not impressed. 

Are you denying complicity in that incident?  Did I hallucinate your
.signature on it, even though it was posted from Matt's account, which
indicates that it was put there intentionally?

At any rate, Rhonda tells me that members of the Brahms Gang have
been harassing HER through email!  So how is her "spiteful speculation"
any different from your public rantings about Tim?  

Somehow I expected something more clever than "B..b..but HE started it!!"
from the Brahms Gang.  Shit, this is like shooting fish in a barrel!
No less fun, though....the greatest joy in net.flaming, as Hunter S.
Thompson observed in politics, is "a wide-open hammer shot on some
poor bastard who knows he's trapped, but can't flee."

-- Jim Lewis
   U.C. Berkeley