Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ihnp4!chinet!rhonda From: rhonda@chinet.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.flame Subject: Re: Illegal Flame Message-ID: <1604@chinet.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Sep-87 00:29:31 EDT Article-I.D.: chinet.1604 Posted: Mon Sep 21 00:29:31 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Sep-87 00:37:21 EDT References: <315@cc5.bbn.com.BBN.COM> <3967@well.UUCP> <2983@hoptoad.uucp> <8709190834.AA00278@chex> Reply-To: rhonda@chinet.UUCP (Rhonda Scribner) Organization: Chinet - Public Access Unix Lines: 43 In article <8709190834.AA00278@chex> chex!gsmith (Gene Ward Smith) writes: >If >you wish that people would be nicer or that the world was a >better place, you might began by asking yourself why you found it >necessary to use lies and intimidation against those you regarded >as your enemies. Coming from a person with your strong professed >interest in justice for everyone, I found and still find your >actions to be not only morally bankrupt, but well-nigh >incredible. The hypocrisy of it still stuns and nauseates me. Gene, if hypocrisy really stunned you, your own would have killed you by now. Is this the Gene Ward Smith who only a few months back was working side by side with his pal Matthew Wiener, deliberating insulting people right and left? Is this the Gene Ward Smith who joined his friend in the series of insulting abusive letters I received from the brahms gang and their groupies? Why did he suddenly convert to Mr. Nice Guy and rush to my defense against nasty Tim Maroney when Tim and I had an argument in alt.drugs? Like I said once before, Tim isn't exactly a choir boy himself, but Gene's knight in shining armour routine was a sham (he was only out to hunt down and attack Tim), as was his effort at rounding up "support" for Matthew in a flurry of newsgroups. (The most vile example of this was his pandering in soc.culture.jewish, where he gratuitously posted about Matthew's trials and tribulations by trying to rally readers against Tim Maroney, who had made anti-Israel comments. This posting had as much to do with Judaism as his politics postings of the same breed had to do with libertarianism or free speech.) Did anybody else see Gene's response to Mark Ethan Smith regarding Mark's comments about how libertarian system administrators inevitably take aaway accounts belong to Jews? Flowery prose about not agreeing with Mark's postings but believing staunchly in her right to post. Can you imagine Gene or Matthew saying anything of the kind six months ago? No, it would have gone more like "Retarded ingoramuses like you shouldn't be allowed access to a pad and pencil, let alone a terminal," wouldn't it? Hypocrisy? It's not in the brahms gang dictionary. Except when describing others. By the way, I recently wrote an article in which I accused Mark Ethan Smith and Matthew Wiener of actually being the same person. I have heard from several reliable sources that this is not the case. But I'm not sure who (if anyone) I owe an apology to. :-) --Rhonda