Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!princeton!udel!rochester!bbn!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!jack!man!nu3b2!nusdhub!rwhite From: rwhite@nusdhub.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Intel && C (was: Passing (char *) NULL) Message-ID: <111@nusdhub.UUCP> Date: Wed, 30-Sep-87 13:36:34 EDT Article-I.D.: nusdhub.111 Posted: Wed Sep 30 13:36:34 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Oct-87 04:44:06 EDT References: <166@qetzal.UUCP> <157@hobbes.UUCP> <875@bsu-cs.UUCP> <727@ima.ISC.COM> Organization: National University, San Diego Lines: 36 Keywords: MSC,NULL segments Summary: OIC U finally C In article <727@ima.ISC.COM>, johnl@ima.ISC.COM (John R. Levine) writes: > [ lots-o "Whare did that come from?" deleted ] > (If I were in the mood for a cheap shot, I'd mention that C actually fits the > 8086 quite badly, which is why 8086 C has extra keywords like near and far and > cdecl to get around its peculiar segmentation, and I don't see near and far > anywhere in the standard.) In your asside you finally got the point to the thread! I was not being "blind" to the existance of other machines. This thread [at leas as much of it as I've seen] dealt only with the fact that the x86 family IS BADLY DESIGNED FOR AN IMPLEMENTATION OF C!! You apparently see x86 and loose it compleetly in any rational argument on the subject. The logical proposition these postings are based on is: 1) There is usually, but not always, more than one way [and more often like 256 ways] to reach any particular byte of memory. 2) Point 1 is not consistantly true within it's own scope. 3) It is an understandable fact that this is the case, given the development of the x86 family. 4) There are LOTS of other arcitectures out there without this basic problem. THEREFORE: IT IS NOT A GOOD THING TO TRY TO AMMEND THE C STANDARD BECAUSE OF ONE DAMAGED ADDRESSING SCHEME. I only used the 680xx family because I, and I felt enough others, would understand the refrence. If I knew enough about the other machines you mentioned, I might comment further on the subject. IF YOU WOULD _READ_!!! THE POSTINGS BEFORE YOU GET ALL HOT AND BOTHERED ABOUT THEIR ALEGED CONTENT, YOU WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE BOTHERED QUITE SO MUCH BY USENET IN GENERAL. Rob ("Who asked you anyway?") White.