Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!pyramid!uccba!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.sources.wanted,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: UCB Mail with reply include Message-ID: <4819@ncoast.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Oct-87 07:50:05 EDT Article-I.D.: ncoast.4819 Posted: Tue Oct 6 07:50:05 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Oct-87 07:22:34 EDT References: <1392@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <890@bakerst.UUCP> <212@ho7cad.ATT.COM> <782@umix.cc.umich.edu> <895@mcgill-vision.UUCP> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) Followup-To: comp.mail.misc Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 31 Xref: mnetor comp.mail.misc:585 comp.sources.wanted:2492 comp.unix.questions:4426 As quoted from <895@mcgill-vision.UUCP> by mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP (der Mouse): +--------------- | > There should be a better way of providing what is essentially a | > history of a given mail exchange without [including previous messages | > in a current one]. | | It's known as "editing". +--------------- Something tells me we're about to go off at a tangent into the News/Notes wars... Seriously, it would be nice if mail had References: lines, and there were a mail reader that could split the screen and show referenced messages in another window. Alas, that would require a consistent method of saving mail. (Hmmm... have to work on it after I get my copy of Gnu Emacs. Gnu+MH ought be a good starting point.) Forget "editing" -- you can't even force it. (See, for example, 2.11 inews.) People will just keep on including everything and using "mailer hate lines" to make their articles even bigger & more useless, and then complain that it's the fault of the mailer. (...you can lead a netter to knowledge, but you can't make him think.) It started out in news. It has spread to the Fidonet; Elm spread it to the mailers; and it's out of control. We need REAL suggestions as to how to stop it (and cc: FidoNews on it, they're desperate!). -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc {{harvard,mit-eddie}!necntc,well!hoptoad,sun!mandrill!hal}!ncoast!allbery ARPA: necntc!ncoast!allbery@harvard.harvard.edu Fido: 157/502 MCI: BALLBERY <> "...he calls _that_ a `little adventure'?!" - Cmdr. Ryker