Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!ukma!david From: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- Resident E-mail Hack) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: VMS <=> Unix mail Message-ID: <7462@g.ms.uky.edu> Date: Mon, 12-Oct-87 01:41:54 EDT Article-I.D.: g.7462 Posted: Mon Oct 12 01:41:54 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Oct-87 01:34:38 EDT References: <503@esl.UUCP> <715@hslrswi.UUCP> Reply-To: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- Resident E-mail Hack) Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 79 Keywords: Ultrix DECnet VMS mail In article <715@hslrswi.UUCP> robert@hslrswi.UUCP (J. Robert Ward) writes: > >In article <503@esl.UUCP> Michael McNamara writes: >>We have a number of unix machines, both system 5 and Ultrix. We are going >>to convert one of our vaxes to VMS. We are interested in any VMS <=> unix >>mail interfaces. The machines will all share an ethernet; the Ultrix machine >>runs decnet; hence a LAN based mail scheme would be nice. >>However, as the machines are all in the same room, an RS-232 link would >>suffice. >> >> Michael Mc Namara >> ESL Incorporated >> ARPA: mac%esl@lll-lcc.ARPA [ Deleted suggestion from J. Robert Ward, {uunet,ukc,mcvax ... }!cernvax!hslrswi!robert suggesting the DECNET software for Ultrix and hacking up sendmail.cf's, and all sorts of boring things ... ] Since I just re-read the description of PMDF this morning I thought I'd suggest this ... PMDF is the program to run on the VMS side. It can use DECNET, DECNET-based mail, JNET (i.e. the bitnet software for VMS), SMTP over TCP/IP (the Tek TCP/IP for VMS ... a.k.a. CMU/TEK TCP/IP, and best of all it's free from CMU), SMTP over "arbitrary I/O channel", and PSIMail as different transport mechanisms. Oh, and also the PhoneNet protocol which is used by CSNET, and is present in MMDF and can be added to Sendmail. It fully underastands rfc822 and rfc821 (when used with SMTP). It is a "subset" of MMDF. MMDF is available with all 4.3 systems since it was included as User Contributed Software. (NOTE, that doesn't mean that it's installed on all 4.3 systems, but it's available). Oh, configuring MMDF is no longer a black art like it used to be before MMDF-IIb. Rather, it's not as much of a black art as it was back then. I also feel that it's easier to do than configuring SendMail. But that's all a matter of opinion. PMDF is available for $50.00 (If you're not a CSNET member) from: Ned Freed (ned@ymir.bitnet) The PMDF Project Computing Services Harvey Mudd College Claremont, CA 91711 (714) 621-8006 Make checks payable to "PMDF Project, Harvey Mudd College". It includes a 9-track tape in VMS BACKUP format, and about 100 pages of printed documentation. Included is the complete Pascal source and executables for PMDF, PhoneNet and the various interfaces to other transport mechanisms. You're free to use it on as many systems with a single site as you like, but you can't redistribute it. Also, it's not available via FTP from anywhere. Some mailing lists of interest: rpmdf@ymir.bitnet requests, administrivia ipmdf@ymir.bitnet submissions to the list qpmdf@ymir.bitnet queries for information about PMDF Note. I've never looked at this code nor used it. I'm just abstracting information from <57300007@gorgo.UUCP> posted on 19-May-87 by Steve Blasingame of Oklahoma City. If I remember correctly the VMS world is working on using PMDF as the basis for a mail/news network just like UUCP has been used to build our network. I think they'll be gatewaying in and out of our network whereever feasable. Hope this helps. -- <---- David Herron, Local E-Mail Hack, david@ms.uky.edu, david@ms.uky.csnet <---- {rutgers,uunet,cbosgd}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET <---- I thought that time was this neat invention that kept everything <---- from happening at once. Why doesn't this work in practice?