Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!think!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!hplabs!sdcrdcf!ism780c!tim From: tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.misc Subject: Re: public key encryption and RSA patent status Message-ID: <7335@ism780c.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Sep-87 19:39:08 EDT Article-I.D.: ism780c.7335 Posted: Fri Sep 18 19:39:08 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Sep-87 07:10:37 EDT References: <1372@osiris.UUCP> <441@polyslo.UUCP> <686@sugar.UUCP> <1490@epimass.EPI.COM> <25@nl.cs.cmu.edu> Reply-To: tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Santa Monica CA Lines: 40 Keywords: RSA patent pencil paper bgofus Xref: mnetor sci.crypt:549 comp.misc:1244 In article <25@nl.cs.cmu.edu> mlm@nl.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Mauldin) writes: < I agree with jbuck@epimass's assessment of the situation. As I < remember it, you can't patent something that can be done (in principle) < by a person using pencil and paper. You can patent anything that you can convince the patent office to issue you a patent for. The book "Software Law - A Primer" ( or something like that ) has some examples of patents that have been granted that are similar to RSA. For example, there was some manufacturing process that involved the use of feedback ( if I remember correctly ). Someone came up with the idea of using a specific function to control the feedback. It was a fairly simple function, too. One that shows up in other things. Something like y=exp(-x). Their patent was not an attempt to patent the exponential function. Their patent was an attempt to patent the use of an exponential function as a key step in making a specific type of item. The patent was granted. This did not mean that other people could not use exponential functions. It just meant that other people could not use them in the same way when making the same type of product as the patent holder. I suspect that the RSA patent would be similar. Anyone can use the functions that RSA uses for things other than a public key cryptography system. It would only be the specific use that would be covered by the patent. Disclaimer: What do I know? I am just a person who read a book that covered this. Consult a real lawyer before taking anything I say seriously! -- Tim Smith, Knowledgian {sdcrdcf,uunet}!ism780c!tim tim@ism780c.isc.com "Oh I wish I were Matthew Wiener, That is who I truly want to be, 'Cause if I were Matthew Wiener, Tim Maroney would send flames to me"