Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!iuvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!uicsrd!kai From: kai@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: IBM mainframe for sale Message-ID: <46300008@uicsrd> Date: Fri, 18-Sep-87 22:13:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uicsrd.46300008 Posted: Fri Sep 18 22:13:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Sep-87 21:10:20 EDT References: <4WALT@MAINE> Lines: 29 Nf-ID: #R:<4WALT@MAINE>:-13:uicsrd:46300008:000:1203 Nf-From: uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu!kai Sep 18 21:13:00 1987 > Richard Morin ({hoptoad,ptsfa}!cfcl!rdm) writes: > > I made a firm decision a few years ago which has served me well ever > since: Never buy equipment that won't run in an unconditioned room > on standard wall current. Sounds like you don't use anything larger than a workstation, maybe a small Microvax. Nowhere near the power of a 3033. This offer (if it is valid) sounds a lot like the Commodore 128 story. Buy the cpu for next to nothing, followed by lots of little extras, like software, peripherals, networking equipment, not to mention the staff of at least ten it takes to run a large IBM data center (systems and operations) effectively. And a 3033 IS LARGE too. I wonder who pays shipping? I'll bet the US Government would be interested. Having worked for them in the past, I can vouch for the fact they they LIKE using old IBM systems. The place I worked at spent more than the cost of a new faster, cooler, smaller 4341 getting an old 370/165 to work with MVS and support more than the IBM recommended maximum 3 Mb memory. Patrick Wolfe Internet: pwolfe@kai.com UUCP: ...!{uunet,ihnp4}!uiucuxc!kailand!pwolfe The opinions expressed here are my own, NOT my employers.