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From: JOHNSON@NUHUB.ACS.NORTHEASTERN.EDU ("I am only an egg.")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Re: Too much traffic.
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Date: Tue, 22-Sep-87 07:24:00 EDT
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     >Here, here!  It's high time this list spawned
     >info-vax.novice or some such.  Problem is, the
     >distinction would be self selecting, and you KNOW
     >that novices would still post annoying messages
     >like "Gee, I don't know if this is the right place
     >to ask, but could you please add me to your
     >list?".  Also, if no one knowlegeable sends out
     >replies _of course_ people are going to think that
     >their unanswered queries on Pascal OPEN's and such
     >are going to be important enough for the "low
     >traffic" list.  Do you see any solution short of a
     >moderated list?  We should convince DEC or DECUS
     >to devote a full-time staff member to sending out
     >replies.... 
     >
     >                   --John Hanley

     Unfortunately, I see no way to control traffic short of a moderator 
either.  If I could, I'd run for Congress.

     Still, something has to be done.  I doubt that the relay machine for 
this list is very pleased about all the traffic either.  If this keeps 
up all the wizards and near wizards will go away and only the novices 
will be left to share their ignorance.  This wouldn't be a goodness.

     Admittedly, computer manuals aren't necessarily the easiest things 
in the world to read or understand.  I've been stuck myself with 
problems that are obvious to other people.  Sometimes we get too close 
to a problem and can't see the answer (how many times have we forgotten 
a comma or two in a system call, either VMS or UNIX/ULTRIX).

     I realize that it is sometimes very difficult to determine to 
source of a problem.  Often problems cross over into vastly different 
areas of an operating system.  However, there is an info-pascal list. 
There is also an info-c list.  Maybe these lists are a bit more oriented
towards language concerns than specific implementations but using a
langauge is at least as important as defining one. 

     Don't know what the solution might be or if there is one.  I'm just 
pointing out what most people on info-vax already know, there's a 
traffic problem.

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