Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!enea!sommar From: sommar@enea.UUCP (Erland Sommarskog) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,sci.lang Subject: Re: accented alphabets and computers Message-ID: <2293@enea.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Sep-87 18:27:31 EDT Article-I.D.: enea.2293 Posted: Mon Sep 21 18:27:31 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Sep-87 10:23:47 EDT References: <120@quick.COM> Reply-To: sommar@enea.UUCP(Erland Sommarskog) Followup-To: comp.std.internat Organization: ENEA DATA Svenska AB, Sweden Lines: 40 Xref: mnetor comp.std.internat:261 sci.lang:1452 srg@quick.COM (Spencer Garrett) writes: >I'm the one who posted the remark about English and Russian being the only >two languages written using unaccented alphabets. Perhaps I should have >made the distinction more clear. By "unaccented" I meant "written without >overstrikes" and "sorted one letter at a time in a fixed order". These >characteristics make dealing with computers a darn sight easier, and thus >represent advantages in this context. By this metric modern English and >Russian qualify. Don't you get the feeling that we are just going round and round in this discssuion? Since Mr. Garrett seems to have missed a lot of the discussion, I will have to repeat. English is by no means unique among the latin-written languages. Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian and I guess also Dutch qualify as well. >I don't mean to imply by all this that I think >other languages are inferior and should be changed or forgotten, but I do >think this observation helps explain why English is so often used to talk >to computers even in non-English-speaking countries. That has nothing to do with simplicity. It as just a matter of dominating culture. If French had been the leading language, computers would have been able to handles accents decently today. (Et, ils avraient parl'e le fran,cais.) >The cost of implementing a "superset" standard is unfortunately >unacceptable. (Imagine merely doubling the size of all the "text" files >on your system!) And stupid me, thinking we had computers to make things easier and better. Forever, I will do better with a simple pen or a typewriter. :-) Of course we can afford a better character standard! We have computers to serve and help us, not rule and delimit us! -- Erland Sommarskog ENEA Data, Stockholm sommar@enea.UUCP