Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!think!ames!oliveb!sun!pepper!cmcmanis From: cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: NeWS for the ST! Message-ID: <28570@sun.uucp> Date: Mon, 21-Sep-87 00:29:21 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.28570 Posted: Mon Sep 21 00:29:21 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Sep-87 00:49:44 EDT References: <484@ea.ecn.purdue.edu> <3746154a.9540@apollo.uucp> <167@geovision.UUCP> Sender: news@sun.uucp Lines: 31 Summary: NeWS and X are servers, not GEM replacements Since I work at Sun a couple of people a week ask me whether or not NeWS will be available/ported/sold for the Atari/Amiga/Mac/IBM-PC. The answer is "There are no current plans for Sun to market NeWS for any microcomputer." But the better answer is, the source license is $25,000. Do the port (it isn't too tough if you have multiasking or can fake it in some way) and then sell 250 copies of the binaries at $100 each to pay of the cost of the source license. But this is not the reason for the message ... A significant portion of the people who ask about NeWS (and X) want to know if it 'replaces' GEM. And that points out a fundamental misconception about what you get when you get a server based window system. What you get is a program that is a window 'service.' That is, you can send it requests, and get requests from it. This is not unlike a terminal program that emulates a DEC VT100 terminal. The difference being that there are several 'sessions' going on at once and the machine at the other end of the line need only know about the window system protocol (like DEC machines know about the VT100 protocol) to be able to use the interface to it's maximum advantage. What this means is, that if you get NeWS or X you will *also* want to connect your machine to one that talks the window system protocol (like a Sun server, or possibly something like the 'TT') You don't always have enough power left to support both the NeWS client code and other applications as well. So for those of you who want one of these window systems, encourage those software firms to contact Sun (or MIT) for a liscense and some source code. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.