Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!think!ames!aurora!labrea!jade!ucbvax!BFLY-VAX.BBN.COM!aking From: aking@BFLY-VAX.BBN.COM.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Nits about the development environment Message-ID: <8709250401.AA01825@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 24-Sep-87 23:56:30 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8709250401.AA01825 Posted: Thu Sep 24 23:56:30 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Sep-87 16:06:11 EDT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 30 1. DEBUGGERS: Is there any way of reinitializing the program in SID without exiting and reentering (and destroying debugger state?) Like the "run" command in dbx. Speaking of the devil, does amiga have source level debugging? When is atari's new debugger coming out? 2. EMACS: Who can tell me when ^y (yank) in micro-emacs will bring back just the last thing deleted (per the emacs convensions) or a whole bunch of other deletions which seem to be trying to make up for the lack of a kill ring buffer, and is quite annoying. Sometimes, for long streches of time, it just (corectly in my opinion) puts just the last thing, and sometimes, the whole kitchen sink gets plopped down in the middle of what you are doing, without even setting the mark on the other side! (Oh, I guess that was a flame!) Perhaps I'm suffering from old version-itus? is it fixed in the latest? (oh please add word wrap!) 3. COMPILERS and LINKERS: Atari's new linker was a godsend. It takes links with vdi & gem down from 2 min to 18 seconds (both with Supra and much ramdisk). Bravo. And filenames can have backslashes in them too -- quality work! Now, if the assembler in the latest version of Alcyon (4.14) would only do what earlier versions could, namely put temporary files on ramdisk. When I upgraded to 4.14 (I need its improvements in structure support) the time to assemble trippled, presumably due to the loss of ramdisk for temporaries. If I sound like a speed freek, its because my world clock runs on compile-load-go time periods. I have definately been jaded by the SUN-3 that sits on my desk at work. Does Anybody know if the Light Speed C people have any ST intensions? Will it run under magic sac? Allen King aking bfly-vax.bbn.com ucbvax