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From: weaver@tut.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Sound Familiar (Tramiel Inc.)
Message-ID: <254@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wed, 30-Sep-87 18:42:56 EDT
Article-I.D.: tut.254
Posted: Wed Sep 30 18:42:56 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 2-Oct-87 02:20:26 EDT
References: <5441@utcsri.UUCP> <852@atari.UUCP> <2265@druhi.ATT.COM>
Reply-To: weaver%tut.cis.ohio-state.edu@osu-eddie.UUCP (Andrew Weaver)
Organization: The Ohio State University, CIS Dept.
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In article <2265@druhi.ATT.COM> med@druhi.ATT.COM (DrapalME) writes:
>In article <852@atari.UUCP>, dyer@atari.UUCP (Landon Dyer) writes:
>> In article <5441@utcsri.UUCP>, juancho@utcsri.UUCP (John Buchanan) writes:
>> > 	-There can only be 20 files open in the whole system at one time.
>> > 
>> > 	-A compile requires 6 files to be open at the same time.
>> > 
>> > 	... EXCESS VERBAGE DELETED ...
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 	=========================================================
>> > 	*  These opinions are mine but after atari reads them   *
>> > 	*  they will probably start climing that they are theirs*
>> > 	=========================================================
>> 
>> Give it a rest.
>> 
>> None of the Tramiels read usenet, so you are wasting your time
>> bashing seven or eight rather over-worked software engineers.
>> 
>
>My, My, have we finally hit a living nerve here???  It's been so long since
>*ANYONE* from Atari responded here with much more than rumors and the ever
>expanding list of vaporware and empty promises...
>
>But seriously, folks, didn't you enjoy the new product announcement.  It
>probably would be more appropriate if the release date was changed to
>"by Christmas", just in time to overhang the market...
> ..
>Guess its time for me to "give it a rest" and decide how much money I'll
>be asking for my ST....
> ..
>P.S. Flame me, I love the e-mail.

	Good.  I will flame you to the net.

	I've owned my 520ST for about a year now.  Yes, I have had problems,
some so bad that a friend and I had to do hardware mods (like replace the 
sockets on the ROMs.)  But hey, I only paid $589 for my entire system, which
is about 100 times the computer I bought 3 years ago (an Atari 800 at ~$400)
That is one heckuva lot of computer for a little bit of price, problems and
all.  It fell out of warranty, I had to fix it!  If you own an IBM, an Apple
or any other computer and it fails, you will either fix it, pay to get it fixed
or trash it.  So what's the fuss?

	I am tired of all of you crybabies talking about the product announce-
ments, etc.  Big deal; companies do it all the time, Atari is no exception.
It just happens to put a few more out than the others.  

	I like my Atari alright, but since Atari Corp has decided not to 
properly support it, I will probably save my pennies and get either a Mac
Plus or a Mac II -- a real machine, with a real[ly big] price tag with 
real support and real software.  But I will keep my ST for messing around with
and to give to my kids and show them what we used in the old days :-)

	Its too bad we don't hear as much about useful tips, programming
techniques, etc. in this newgroup anymore.  Look at Uniterm, Degas (or any
other Tom Hudson product), Publishing Partner.  Decent products, all at
good prices. No, they aren't PageMaker or Microsoft Word, but the ST isn't 
a Mac either.

	Don't let that ST gather dust in your closet.  Send it to the 
address below where it will be given to a needy college student looking
for a decent low-priced computer.

	Okay, I'm off my soapbox.  Flame me freely, via net, e-mail or
whatever flammable material you may find.


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