Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!yetti!geac!braegen!ken From: ken@braegen.UUCP (Ken Marchant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Was: Security problem on UNIX PC's) Message-ID: <124@braegen.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Sep-87 13:08:09 EDT Article-I.D.: braegen.124 Posted: Tue Sep 29 13:08:09 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Sep-87 03:18:24 EDT References: <54@quincy.UUCP> <149@manta.UUCP> Organization: The Braegen Group Inc., Toronto Ontario CAN Lines: 27 > As a result, it's irresponsible to post articles giving exact directions > for violating system security. Even if you're not personally > affected, that doesn't give you the right to post (or encourage others > to post) how-to's on system cracking. Your one thoughtless posting > certainly did far more damage than good. > -- > Brant Cheikes > ARPA: brant@linc.cis.upenn.edu > UUCP: rutgers!cbmvax!cgh!manta!brant > Department of Computer and Information Science / University of Pennsylvania No. No. No. No.!!! Often those of us using these systems in "hostile" environments are not sufficiently adept at determining security holes. If people out there on the net have found holes then you can be damn sure that malicious users in "hostile" environments will. The responsibility lies in making as many administrators as possible aware of security problems. The analogy is not telling people to use deadbolt locks and keep property well lit around their homes because we might be telling burglars how to break in. The demonstrated fact is that if there's a way in then people who want to will find it. In fact one might wonder if Mr. Cheikes is not some interloper whose favourite hole has now been exposed.:-) -- Ken Marchant The Braegen Group, Toronto, Ontario (allegra,linus,ihnp4,decvax)!mnetor!yetti!geac!braegen!ken