Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!bellcore!faline!ulysses!sfmag!sfsup!shap From: shap@sfsup.UUCP (J.S.Shapiro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Was: Security problem on UNIX PC's) Message-ID: <2122@sfsup.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Sep-87 18:28:58 EDT Article-I.D.: sfsup.2122 Posted: Mon Sep 28 18:28:58 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 5-Oct-87 01:45:16 EDT References: <54@quincy.UUCP> <149@manta.UUCP> <55@quincy.UUCP> Organization: AT&T-IS, Summit N.J. USA Lines: 24 Summary: Resolution for Hackers stuff In article <55@quincy.UUCP>, lenny@quincy.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) writes: > In article <149@manta.UUCP>, brant@manta.UUCP (Brant Cheikes) writes: > > As a result, it's irresponsible > > to post articles giving exact directions for violating system security. > > Brant, I was *NOT* giving the people the "DIRECTIONS" for HACKING a machine, > ... This topic was discussed to death in unix-wizards many years ago. The resolution for that environment was that they created a mailing list of system administrators rather than post things to the net. In the UNIX PC domain this doesn't apply, as every owner is, like it or not, an administrator. As such, it makes sense to post things here. If in fact people object enough to needing to work so hard to keep their Personal Computers safe, I hope that they will all object *loudly* to their sales reps/vendors, with *examples* so that we can get the right high level people here at AT&T to agree that UNIX administration is worth throwing more money at. Sigh. Jon Shapiro AT&T Information Systems