Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!oberon!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!ucbcad!ames!lll-tis!ptsfa!ihnp4!cbosgd!mandrill!hal!oxtrap!rich From: rich@oxtrap.UUCP (K. Richard Magill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Irresponsibility (Was: Security problem on UNIX PC's) Message-ID: <1569@oxtrap.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Oct-87 18:57:38 EDT Article-I.D.: oxtrap.1569 Posted: Fri Oct 9 18:57:38 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Oct-87 06:38:39 EDT References: <54@quincy.UUCP> <149@manta.UUCP> <55@quincy.UUCP> <2122@sfsup.UUCP> Reply-To: rich@oxtrap.UUCP (K. Richard Magill) Organization: Oxford TP, Ann Arbor Lines: 16 Keywords: security Summary: wheel reinvention This issue has also been discussed in the risks forum, the ACM, the arpa net etc, the most recent vote I've seen held the majority, (~60-40), to feel that publicizing holes is better for the lock-ers than for the lock-breakers. The theory is similar to the handgun discussion, (NO FLAMES NO FOLOWUPS ON HANDGUNS!), that the criminals WILL have the tools and that the black-market will propogate them, so its best if we arm the good guys the best we can. In other words, Brant's work has made my 3b1 more than twice as useful as it started out, but in this case I, and usually the majority, dis-agree with him. xoxorich. ps, I seem to have lost Brant's gnu-keymaps. Can someone send them to me again?