Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!mcnc!rti!bcw From: bcw@rti.UUCP (Bruce Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: A different View of the value of OS/2 - it's better than UNIX Message-ID: <1729@rti.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Sep-87 03:05:05 EDT Article-I.D.: rti.1729 Posted: Mon Sep 21 03:05:05 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Sep-87 01:27:00 EDT References: <494@parcvax.Xerox.COM> <961@looking.UUCP> <498@parcvax.Xerox.COM> <13212@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC Lines: 63 Summary: OS/2, Unix, and MS-DOS In article <13212@bu-cs.BU.EDU>, acm@bu-cs.BU.EDU (ACM) writes: > > Definitely not so cheap. IBM's price (straight from their catalogue) > is $395/copy. And it's still vaporware.... This brings up a > question. Anyone know how many people are paying for copies of OS/2 > now? It *was* advertised in IBM's catalogue (with "To be released > first quarter 1988" in very small print), as was the model 80 and some > enhancements to OS/2 (including the Presentation Manager which should > be out sometime before the turn of the century). I'd like to know > what the sales are for OS/2 before release. It is not at all clear to me that _either_ OS/2 or Unix will amount to a hill of beans in the PC marketplace outside of niche markets. Before you flame me, hear me out. I define things like LAN servers, high-end CAD workstations, medical imaging systems, high-end desktop publishing, etc. as niche markets. For low-end CAD, or low-end desktop publishing, or the vast majority of applications used by PC users, it just doesn't provide any significant benefit. Multi- tasking is nice, but it's really most useful to support multi-user applications (hence LANs) or specialized applications requiring lots of horsepower and lots of user interaction *at the same time*. The typical spreadsheet, word processor, terminal emulation program, or what have you, just doesn't have any _need_ for multitasking - it's not even in its domain. The only thing about OS/2 which is at all interesting to the majority of users will be the graphical interface - what IBM calls the Presentation Manager. This will not be released for who knows how long - certainly _long_ after the base release of OS/2. And there are plenty of graphics interfaces now (Windows, GEM, etc) which are not exactly setting the world on fire - there are some people who like them but there is hardly a wholesale migration to any of them. About the only benefit that most PC users would see from improved multi- tasking is a better print spooler. Period. And better print spoolers are available as add-on programs or as cheap print buffer hardware. A better printer spooler could be put on MS-DOS - the main problem with the one there now isn't that you can't do print spooling reasonably on a system without complete multi-tasking (see RT-11, which does have a Foreground/ Background but which are hardly a complete tasking environment), but that the parallel interface on the IBM monochrome card is brain-damaged such that you can't run it with interrupts - so MS-DOS doesn't even try with other interfaces since this one is so likely. You could fix this problem with PS/2 or other hardware and better support from MS-DOS or with a third- party printer driver. Add to this the fact that OS/2 will only run on the 286 and 386 machines and you have a real niche market for OS/2 (and Unix). Of course the major developers will support OS/2 - why shouldn't they??? If you are running a LAN or a CAD workstation which might sometimes use (for example) 1-2-3, you _don't_ want to hear that the program won't run on that OS. But this won't change the niche market for OS/2 - since the developers will in all likelihood not want to cross off the 88/86/186 markets - especially since the low-end PS/2 machines will still be running the older chips. If it were cheap, or if there were some really useful, widely-needed product which would run on OS/2 but not on MS-DOS, OS/2 (or Unix) might become as widely used as MS-DOS. But I'm not holding my breath. Bruce C. Wright