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From: tim@hoptoad.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: APPLESHARE server sitting on ETHERNET
Message-ID: <3004@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: Sun, 20-Sep-87 21:36:33 EDT
Article-I.D.: hoptoad.3004
Posted: Sun Sep 20 21:36:33 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 22-Sep-87 01:20:46 EDT
References: <7185@reed.UUCP> <3900@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU>
Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, TOPS Division, Berkeley
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The original message never seems to have made it here; the net is stammering
really badly these days.  So my responses are based on a bit of speculation.

In article <3900@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU> graifer@net1.UUCP (Dan Graifer) writes:
>2) Kinetics has a TCP/IP, Telenet, TFTP etc. package available for the Mac

They provide my (and Mark Sherman's) public domain TCP/IP product.  It's not
particularly good: it is based on rotten software from MIT, it was my first
Mac project *and* my first TCP/IP project, and it has been slow to improve
since I left CMU.  I have written from scratch a new TCP/IP and terminal
emulator, which such extra goodies as multiple login sessions and a fully
integrated text editor and a script language and modem support and... called
TOPS Terminal, which has been in alpha test since July and is expected to be
released before the end of the year, which is a lot better.  It has a TELNET
and an FTP.

>3) (Best bet in my opinion).  Call Centram (Maker of the TOPS network, now
>   owned by Sun Microsystems) and harass them about TOPS network driver
>   software for this configuration.  They currently support file service
>   off a mix of Unix machines on Ethernet connected to PCs and Macs on 
>   Appletalk/PhoneNet via a FastPath.  The marketing people I talked too
>   were willing to admit the market for the product you want, but not what
>   Centram's plans were.

I don't know what configuration, but TOPS worked without modifications on
the very first Kinetics Ethernet boards, which provide look-alike Appletalk
drivers for transparency.  (Well done, Kinetics!  It would drive me bonkers
to have to write a look-alike for something that ugly!)  TOPS has been
running on Ethernet for many moons.

By the way, Centram is dead; long live the TOPS Division of Sun
Microsystems.  About time, too; never did like "Centram" as a name.
-- 
Tim Maroney, {ihnp4,sun,well,ptsfa,lll-crg}!hoptoad!tim (uucp)
hoptoad!tim@lll-crg (arpa)