Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!rochester!udel!burdvax!bpa!drexel!rickers From: rickers@drexel.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac programmers shortage? Message-ID: <518@drexel.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Sep-87 19:55:13 EDT Article-I.D.: drexel.518 Posted: Sun Sep 27 19:55:13 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Sep-87 01:48:24 EDT References: <139@ur-tut.UUCP> <6414@prls.UUCP> Organization: Drexel University, Phila., Pa. Lines: 38 Summary: An area congested with Mac programmers ... In article <6414@prls.UUCP>, gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) writes: > Nat Goldhaber of Centram Inc. is quoted in the latest MacToday "attesting" > to the "difficulty I'm having hiring Mac programmers." On the other hand, > I have a publisher friend who says he is still being flooded with resumes. > > Who's right? Any comments? Has anyone noticed an affect on hiring or salary > offers for experienced Mac programmers? > > Robert Gardner But ... They are all dying off or not turning out to be as good as one would like them to be. Here at Drexel University we have had Macs around for many years now (since April 1984 growing at a rate of 2000/year). We have a room of software developers (courseware) that has been in existance since the time of receiving the first macs and before that. Wow, I remember writing my mac software on a lisa, not really knowing what the capabilities the mac would give us. In the early years of Macintosh, there were half a dozen of us (some of the best mac programmers i have met at that point :-) we have all disappeared, with few of us continuing to program the mac. Every six months, we get a new crop of Mac programmers/users who, for six months, work under a handful of "professionals" trying to develop courseware to meet some educational needs. The courseware that Drexel produces is not anything like it used to be - there really isn't that much of it coming out anymore. At one point in the early days, we had over 100 educational software programs almost completed or completed. Now, it has just shrunk. It is difficult to find *good* mac programmers. And now, I might start doing some more mac programming, and I have lots of it I would like to do, but I do not wish to do it all by myself and may need to find others. I think the best way to get someone is to grab college students who are currently involved with Macintosh programming at universities which are filled with macs, and give them some time. Hopefully their abilities will quickly increase with experience (mine did :-). Rickers ..!drexel!rickers