Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!rochester!PT!vlsi.cs.cmu.edu!blh From: blh@vlsi.cs.cmu.edu (Bruce Horn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Poor Mac Design Philosophy Message-ID: <1084@vlsi.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 9-Oct-87 17:24:38 EDT Article-I.D.: vlsi.1084 Posted: Fri Oct 9 17:24:38 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Oct-87 16:50:45 EDT References: <1076@houtz.UUCP> <21205@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <400@sdics.ucsd.EDU> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 48 Keywords: Mac design blinking apple Although I mostly agree with Don Norman's view, I feel that he in particular, and people in general, tends to forget the circumstances behind the design of the Macintosh. Limited ROM, RAM and *time* made us choose what we felt were the most important things to work on. Of course, many of us in the Mac group were aware of these problems, but the time/memory wasn't there to allow us to fix them. The blinking Apple was one of those things. Certainly now that Apple has time to take care of problems like these, they will; but again, there will be some things with higher priority than others. Completely user-centered design takes lots of time, money, and memory (but I would agree that it is worth it.) Also, Don Norman suggests several alternatives to hidden power keys, including context sensitive help, menus and so on. These are valid *alternatives*, but as people get more used to the system, having to go through these different contexts can be a waste of time. Power keys are just part of the context/expression tradeoff: you can have complicated expressions (command-option-shift click on the xyz icon) or context shift (new window or dialog), followed by a simple expression (just a click on the option you want). My "perfect system" would allow both options. Apple needs to continue to ensure that extensions to the user interface are consistent, *including* the power keys. For example, option-drag should mean "copy" in all contexts where this makes sense. I don't agree with his implication that the one-button mouse is the reason that there are unmemorizable "power keys." Yes, people tend to want to classify clicks more specifically to add functionality, but there are other ways to do this (see paragraph above). Also, have you ever used a three button mouse with the X window system? "Power clicks" with multiple-button mice are just as horrible as "power keys" are on the Mac. His example of "alarm on" being threatening to some people reminded me of our first naive-user reaction to the system error bomb: she thought her Mac was going to blow up! Somebody suggested that we replace the bomb with a flat tire, but we never got around to it. To paraphrase Alan Kay, "The Mac is the first computer worth bashing". Go ahead and bash constructively--that's one way that the machine will be improved. I wouldn't say globally that the Mac was poorly designed...but I'm biased. -- Bruce Horn, Carnegie Mellon CSD uucp: ...!seismo!cmucspt!cmu-cs-vlsi!blh ARPA: blh@vlsi.cs.cmu.edu