Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!sri-unix!sri-spam!mordor!lll-lcc!pyramid!voder!apple!north From: north@apple.UUCP (Donald N. North) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Virtual Memory with the Mac OS Message-ID: <6453@apple.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Oct-87 02:00:59 EDT Article-I.D.: apple.6453 Posted: Sun Oct 11 02:00:59 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Oct-87 21:36:02 EDT References: <2653@okstate.UUCP> <2542@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <1478@pdn.UUCP> Reply-To: north@apple.UUCP (Donald N. North) Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 28 Keywords: virtual memory 68851 HMMU wait states In article <1478@pdn.UUCP> alan@pdn.UUCP (0000-Alan Lovejoy) writes: >/One thing which you might want to question is whether if you want to add an >/68851 MMU to your Mac II. I'm not a hardware guru, but from what >/understand, the 68851 chip adds wait state(s) to every memory reference. >/How's that for slowing down your machine. Note that Suns, etc., all use >/their custom MMU chips to avoid the wait state problems with the Motorola >/chip. >Not quite. The Mac II in its present form uses either the "HMMU" (a 68461) >or the "PMMU" (a 68851), either of which introduces a wait state. >Therefore, taking out your current 68461 and putting in a 68851 should >have no effect on wait states. For the record, the HMMU (an Apple custom, not a 68461) adds ONE wait state to each basic memory access; when it is replaced with a PMMU (68851) TWO wait states are added to each memory access. Thus it only pays to use the 68851 when you really need it (ie, for A/UX). It not only costs you $$ but degrades performance too. -- Don North Apple Computer, Inc. Advanced Technology Group UUCP: {voder,nsc,dual,sun,ucbvax!mtxinu}!apple!north CSNET: north@apple.CSNET {{ Facts are facts, but any opinions expressed are my own, and do not }} {{ represent any viewpoint, official or otherwise, of Apple Computer, Inc.}}