Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!amdahl!amdcad!tim From: tim@amdcad.AMD.COM (Tim Olson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Atari Transputers ? & A British ST/Amiga Rival ? [Really MIPS] Message-ID: <18505@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: Fri, 2-Oct-87 14:17:15 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.18505 Posted: Fri Oct 2 14:17:15 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Oct-87 05:42:46 EDT References: <8709181728.AA13664@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <1623@gryphon.CTS.COM> <607@sbcs.UUCP> <1138@water.waterloo.edu> Reply-To: tim@amdcad.UUCP (Tim Olson) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices Lines: 46 Xref: mnetor comp.sys.atari.st:5422 comp.sys.misc:873 comp.sys.amiga:9031 Summary: In article <1138@water.waterloo.edu> ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) writes: | In article <607@sbcs.UUCP> root@sbcs.UUCP (Root) writes: | >> > One article I have seen quotes the performance of the slower T414 | >> > processor (20 mhz) as 10 MIPS ! | > | > RISC mips, unfortunately. | | You seem to imply that RISC mips are not quite as good as some other kind | of MIPS. Are RISC mips slower somehow? Are more instructions needed to | produce the same results? Explain, please. Actually, the term should be "Native MIPS" (Millions of machine Instructions per Second), as opposed to "Vax MIPS" (How fast is this machine as compared to a VAX 11/780). A MIPS number depends greatly upon processor architecture and benchmarks chosen. For example, the transputer is a stack machine. To perform the sequence a = b+c; (assuming a,b, and c are register variables) requires 4 instructions: push b push c add pop a while on the 68000 it requires 2: mov b, a add c, a and on many RISC machines it requires only 1: add a, b, c However, it is generally true that RISC machines require more instructions to perform an operation than CISC machines (a trade-off for faster instructions). For example, the Am29000 runs at around 17 (Native) MIPS sustained, which roughly corresponds to 13 VAX MIPS. The correspondance varies with the benchmark -- on different programs, the same 17 Native MIPS has varied from 10 to 27 VAX MIPS! -- Tim Olson Advanced Micro Devices (tim@amdcad.amd.com)