Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!eagle!icdoc!cam-cl!scc From: scc@cl.cam.ac.uk (Stephen Crawley) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: rlogin in background strangeness. Message-ID: <1064@jenny.cl.cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23-Sep-87 20:05:07 EDT Article-I.D.: jenny.1064 Posted: Wed Sep 23 20:05:07 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Oct-87 06:42:53 EDT References: <2850@phri.UUCP> <7997@mimsy.UUCP> <872@mcgill-vision.UUCP> <424@hqda-ai.UUCP> Reply-To: scc@cl.cam.ac.uk (Stephen Crawley) Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK Lines: 23 In article <424@hqda-ai.UUCP> merlin@hqda-ai.UUCP (David S. Hayes) writes: ... >2. There is a system with the file system in memory, sort of. In >the Xerox lisp machines, there is no regular file system. There >are only "objects", which are memory-resident. The system saves >"worlds" on the disk (in addition to VM paging space). A world is >merely a copy of the virtual memory space. Sorry Dave, but you are only partly right. A Xerox Lisp machine is normally configured to have a conventional file system on the local disc (your LispFiles volume ...). In addition, files can be stored on a remote XNS fileserver. Though a "world" (actually a "sysout") may be saved to disc and used like a file system, users generally use a real filesystem as well. The problem with using a sysout as your only filesystem is that when Lisp falls over or someone trips over the power cord, you may be left with a badly corrupted sysout, and no way to scavenge it. This is not my idea of what a file system ought to be like. [What has this to do with rlogin?] -- Steve