Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU!RWS From: RWS@ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU (Robert Scheifler) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Comment on Release Notes for X Version 11 Release 1 Message-ID: <870919095159.9.RWS@KILLINGTON.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 19-Sep-87 09:51:00 EDT Article-I.D.: KILLINGT.870919095159.9.RWS Posted: Sat Sep 19 09:51:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Sep-87 15:31:21 EDT References: <8709170307.AA21295@mahendo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 26 If you look at the list of contributors, you will discover that V11R1 was a rather major public undertaking. Now, reflect on that, and realize that not all companies out there were contributing to the public effort, and that even those companies that were certainly didn't expend all of their energies in the public arena. Then think about a snowball rolling down a mountainside, and little MIT standing half way down thinking about whether to try and stop the snowball. It just wasn't sensible. There are enough companies out there, sinking enough time into it, fixing bugs and creating applications independent of MIT, and in some cases writing their entire systems from scratch. At some point we had to say "OK, you can go to product now". That time had come. The protocol and the major interfaces are in good shape. Sure, there are lots of rough edges on the code, and a fair number of stupid bugs. The stupic bugs will get fixed quickly, we'll let you know about them ASAP in most cases, and the rough edges will smooth in time. The next release, in December or January, will be a lot more polished. However, we were getting >1000 mail message a week, we had someone working full time just on trying to empty out someone else's mailbox, we were getting dozens of phone calls a day, people pleading with us for "bits, any bits", pleading for beta test access two days before the release, etc. Better to just get it out there. Better to have people complain that mumble dumps core on a color Sun, rather than have them continue to complain that X10 doesn't do splines on a Sun. This release is not Godlike; the protocol and library interfaces are hopefully like that, but the Sample Server should be viewed as just a sample, not as a Reference Implementation.