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From: davidh@ucbcad.berkeley.edu (David S. Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Guide to using X Properties
Message-ID: <1902@ucbcad.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 1-Oct-87 13:05:56 EDT
Article-I.D.: ucbcad.1902
Posted: Thu Oct  1 13:05:56 1987
Date-Received: Mon, 5-Oct-87 06:48:10 EDT
References: <8709302226.AA01553@audi.siemens.com>
Organization: CAD Group, University of California at Berkeley
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Summary: Automatically determining if a smart window manager is running

In article <8709302226.AA01553@audi.siemens.com>, ellis@cadillac.siemens.COM (Ellis Cohen) writes:
> If there is a "real" window manager present, a client shoould change size
> by only changing WM_NORMAL_HINTS (or WM_ZOOM_HINTS), not by doing an
> explicit XConfigureWindow.
> 
> If you absolutely feel you must make your application work with dumb
> window managers, then do the XConfigureWindow BEFORE you change
> WM_NORMAL_HINTS (or WM_ZOOM_HINTS).

Is it possible for the tiled window manager project to suggest a
way for an application to automatically determine if a smart window
manager is running?  Using a special flag when the application is
invoked to specify "simple window manager running" is non-intuitive 
to novice users.  Perhaps a standard root window property could be set
by an intelligent window manager which could be checked by the application
when it starts.

					David Harrison
					(davidh@ic.Berkeley.EDU)
					(...!ucbvax!ucbcad!davidh)