Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!oberon!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU!RWS From: RWS@ZERMATT.LCS.MIT.EDU (Robert Scheifler) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: re: window manager property semantics Message-ID: <871008082455.1.RWS@KILLINGTON.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 8-Oct-87 08:24:00 EDT Article-I.D.: KILLINGT.871008082455.1.RWS Posted: Thu Oct 8 08:24:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Oct-87 02:11:51 EDT References: <21197@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 9 I agree with Adam, clients should be written in such a fashion that they work well even if no window manager is present, without hassle to the user. Clients should definitely use MapWindow to get the window mapped initially, and window managers should use this as the cue that the window is "ready for prime time". The issue of whether clients should thereafter reconfigure of their own volition is a religious one, but I think the reality is that some clients will do just that, so a window manager that cares should protect its real-estate by judicious use of SubstructureRedirect (which is, after all, there for a reason).