Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!think!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU!fair From: fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) Newsgroups: soc.women,news.admin Subject: Re: Berkeley news Message-ID: <20887@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Mon, 21-Sep-87 01:27:31 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.20887 Posted: Mon Sep 21 01:27:31 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Sep-87 00:46:31 EDT References: <5170@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: na Organization: USENET Protocol Police, Western Gateway Division Lines: 45 Xref: mnetor soc.women:7279 news.admin:1020 Followup-To: Software does deteriorate when it is not maintained, because the environment around it changes. A computer program is a kind of model of the environment in which it operates, and when that model ceases to accurately reflect the environment it operates in, it ceases to work. Netnews has certain periodic manual maintenance needs, which, if they are not attended to, will cause the software to eventually break. Netnews doesn't have an authentication mechanisms in it because authentication in a network environment is a hard problem. If Mark Ethan Smith has an original thought about how it can be done, there are lots of people who'd like to hear it, myself included. Netnews in the UCB Computer Center (where violet.berkeley.edu is) is an unsupported software system, maintained by some members of the staff in their spare time. If it does not get the attention or support that Mark Ethan Smith thinks it ought to, I suggest that he petition Academic Computing Services (ACS) to officially support it. The user consultant people will be happy to tell him who to contact, however it might interest you to know that the vice chancellor in charge of the computer center was recently fired for having overspent his budget to the tune of between four and seven million dollars. I don't think they're hiring anybody just now. Regarding the thinly veiled accusation that I have allowed the netnews system on ucbvax to deteriorate soley for the purpose of censoring Mark Ethan Smith, I refute that. I work very hard to make sure that Berkeley has the best netnews service that can be had. We run the most current version of the software, with all patches applied, closely maintained by me. As for the computer center, if something isn't working there, it isn't because they want to censor Mark Ethan Smith; it's because they don't care about netnews. Of course, this also works to your advantage: I would be very surprised if they ever "pulled your password" for something you posted to the net. Mark, if you posted that message to get a rise out of me, you succeeded. If you are having trouble with netnews, let me know what the problem is, and I will try and get it fixed. If you recall your days on the WELL, there was never a time that I didn't answer your technical questions to the best of my ability to do so. However, accusing someone of misogyny and dereliction of duty is not generally the best way to get their good will. Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu