Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbterra!pab From: pab@cbterra.UUCP Newsgroups: news.misc,soc.net-people,soc.culture.jewish Subject: Re: Libertarian Theory and Libertarian Practice: A Portrait From Life Message-ID: <3710@cbterra.ATT.COM> Date: Fri, 18-Sep-87 22:01:46 EDT Article-I.D.: cbterra.3710 Posted: Fri Sep 18 22:01:46 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Sep-87 08:26:15 EDT References: <8709070142.AA00636@ragu> <1520@chinet.UUCP> <8709130104.AA11330@ragu> <8709180834.AA26333@ronzoni> Organization: Herald Rivera`s school for young journalists Lines: 71 Keywords: Libertarianism, Judaism, Censorship Xref: utgpu news.misc:801 soc.net-people:395 soc.culture.jewish:2558 In article <8709180834.AA26333@ronzoni>, gsmith@BOSCO.BERKELEY.EDU writes: > >In article <1554@chinet.UUCP> rhonda@chinet.UUCP (Rhonda Scribner) writes: > >>>>Gene has tried to make this into a political argument, claiming that the > >>>>issue is "libertarianism." > > For the record and in the possibly mistaken > belief that someone might be interested I should like to say: > > (2) Rhonda to the contrary, I was not writing "diatribes" against > Libertarianism, but asking certain questions relating to the > nature of its commitment to liberty. Why wasnt it posted to appropriate newsgroups then. Your "I'll take dame liberty for myself, thank you" was the most infantile saying i ever heard. It equally applies to the way conservatives view liberals and libertarians, how liberals view libertarians and conservatives, and how libertarians view liberals and conservatives. > Gene, when you first started the "portrait" series. You told a heart-wrenching story about how poor Matt had been canned because Tim complained to Matt's superiors at the university. Then about 3/4 the way into the article you start ranting about libertarians. Yes, somehow, the evil and twisted libertarians sprang from the rocks and bushwacked poor Matt. Tim isnt a libertarian, i dont know if the university oficials are, but what difference does political orientation make? I've been attacked by the "non-violent, nicey-nicey, holier-than-thou" liberals. Does that justify me making inflammatory remarks to discredit them? Your title speaks for itself. What did libertarian philosphy have to do with it? When did libertarian theory become your university's practice. > (3) While I often disagree with what Mark Ethan Smith has to say, > I think he should be allowed to continue saying it. If would you say the same about Tim Maroney? > Libertarians kicked him off that would seem to add to my problems > and questions about this philosophy. I hope my making Oh good grief! How does Mark even know the politics of the people who kicked him off? That has very little to do with it anyway. "Yep, them liberals tried to beat on me, only adds to my problems about their philosphy". > this remark is not taken to be another "diatribe". Again, your title was written as to slur libertarians. Whether it was intended that way or not. Your past postings make me suspect you of ill-intentions though. Gene, you and just about everyone on this net, obviously know nothing about libertarian philosphy. It seems all you have to go on are the lies and propaganda spread by ignorants. If ANYONE wants to know about libertarian philosphy or ANY ( liberal/conservative ) type of politics i suggest you mail it to the soc.politics moderator. Talk.politics.misc is also an option, though i doubt anything productive will come of it. It seems only 3 yr. olds post there. ex.- ( you're an idiot, no! you're pond scum. Yeah, well my mom can beat up your mom! nyaah! ) > > ucbvax!bosco!gsmith Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720 I'm sorry Matt's gone too, I liked most of his postings, hilarious! However, i disliked most of his political postings. They were most irrational and Matt seemed incapable of carrying on a discussion. mm