Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!beta!dd From: dd@beta.UUCP (Dan Davison) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Protein "shape" prediction Message-ID: <10537@beta.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Sep-87 16:25:11 EDT Article-I.D.: beta.10537 Posted: Fri Sep 25 16:25:11 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Sep-87 01:47:00 EDT Organization: Los Alamos Natl Lab, Los Alamos, N.M. Lines: 37 Keywords: lotsa work, little known .Does anyone out there know of a good textbook summarizing laboratory .techniques used in molecular biology? Try "Molecular Cloning" by Tom Maniatis et al, Cold Spring Harbor Press, about 1984. There are some hysterical errors in it, but it's an excellent overview and in general the most commonly cited for these techniques. IRL Press (Oxford and Washington DC) has a "Practical Techniques in blah" series (gel electrophoresis, sequencing, and cloning are the three that I can immediately recall). I haven't used the latter so I can't comment on the quality. Anyone else out there (Craig? Dizzy Dan? Sean?) remember the name of the new competitor to "Molecular cloning"? It has come out recently and I've heard good things about it, but a quick scan of the latest PNAS does not reveal any references to it. .Does anyone know if someone is doing research involving the prediction of .the shape of a protein from its amino acid sequence (or nucleotide sequence)? If you mean tertiary structure by "shape", yes some; if you mean secondary structure (alpha helices, beta sheets, beta turns) lots and lots. For the former, see the paper by Richard A. Lathrop, Teresa Webster, and Temple Smith (or some permutation of those authors) in PNAS, or MIT AI Labs Memo 902, "Ariadne: pattern directed inference and hierarchial abstraction in protein structure recognition" (May 1987). The Webster, Lathrop, and Smith paper may be in Biochemistry, but may not be out yet. The AI memo dated May says "To appear". The AI memo is copyrighted ACM so it may be published somewhere, but I don't follow non-biological literature. There are also lots of people doing molecular mechanics attempts at tertiary structure, but the number of variables is so large that according to one estimate you'd need thousands of Cray-2s running in parallel and many, many, many total universe lifetimes to calculate just one small protein (100 amino acids). dan davison/theoretical biology/t-10 ms k-710/los alamos national laboratory los alamos, nm 87545/ dd@lanl.gov (arpa)/...cmcl2!lanl!dd (uucp)