Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cfa!cfa250!leeds From: leeds@cfa250.harvard.EDU (Paul Martenis) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: 4- and 5- leaved clovers: evidence for environmental disturbance? Message-ID: <628@cfa203.cfa250.harvard.EDU> Date: Mon, 28-Sep-87 09:53:43 EDT Article-I.D.: cfa203.628 Posted: Mon Sep 28 09:53:43 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Sep-87 04:26:45 EDT References: <4066@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Organization: Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, Mass. Lines: 22 in article <4066@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>, palmer@tybalt.caltech.edu (David Palmer) says: > In article <1341@vanhalen.rutgers.edu> pratt@vanhalen.rutgers.edu (Lorien Y. Pratt) writes: >>Hmm...Just now on my way past our "Stern Physics Laboratory" here at >>Rutgers, within the space of 30 seconds I found one 4- and two 5-leaved >>clovers. This got me to thinking about how once somebody told me that >>such mutations (?) were evidence of impurities in the environment, >>perhaps radiation. Is this true? I know that we can conclude a lot >>about the environment from studying animal populations. Is there any >>evidence that a layman can recognize (like these clovers perhaps) >>for environmental disturbances? > > The existence of multiple 4-leafed clovers may mean that at one time > there was a single 4-leafed clover in that spot, and it reproduced. > I once found a patch with literally hundreds of four and five leaf > clovers in a few square meters. My dad grew up on a farm in Maryland (c. 1940) where he says he used to find handfuls of four-leafed clovers. Given the time, I don't think it was due to human tampering. -- - Paul Martenis Cambridge, MA