Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!geovision!alastair From: alastair@geovision.UUCP (Alastair Mayer) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.physics Subject: Re: Xenon/oxygen Message-ID: <200@geovision.UUCP> Date: Thu, 8-Oct-87 12:40:15 EDT Article-I.D.: geovisio.200 Posted: Thu Oct 8 12:40:15 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Oct-87 19:46:24 EDT References: <18@krafla.UUCP> Reply-To: alastair@geovision.UUCP (Alastair Mayer) Organization: Geovision Corporation, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 28 Xref: dciem sci.bio:632 sci.physics:2255 In article <18@krafla.UUCP> frisk@krafla.UUCP (Fridrik Skulason) writes: >Can anyone tell me if a high-pressure mixture of xenon and oxygen would >be breathable. Well, yes and no. I don't know that there are any lethal effects of breathing xenon, but you'd lose conciousness pretty fast breathing it at any significant partial pressure. It has a narcotic effect much as nitrogen does at pp's above 70psi or so. Since xenon molecular weight is higher than nitrogen, xenon narcosis occurs at much lower pressures (don't recall exact figure - 4 or 5psi partial pressure?) Most 'inert' gases exhibit this same phenomenon. One exception is helium, which at high pressures (several hundred psi - equivalent to something between 1000-2000 feet sea water) causes High Pressure Nervous Syndrome (HPNS) - nervous tremor, etc. In some experimental diving the narcotic effects of N2 have been used to 'balance' the HPNS effect of helium (a breathing mix known as trimix, the third component of course being 02). However, it is not an antidote, just pitting two sets of symptoms against each other. Conceivably, you could mix He in with your Xe-O2 mix to counter the narcotic effect of Xe, but the mixture/pressure ratios you'd need would probably not be denser than water -- sorry, no floating. Oh, and watch the O2 partial pressure level - O2 is highly toxic at partial pressures above 30psi or so, even less in some cases. -- Alastair JW Mayer BIX: al UUCP: ...!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!geovision!alastair "What we really need is a good 5-cent/gram launch vehicle."