Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!mcnc!ece-csc!ncsuvx!ncsugn!emigh From: emigh@ncsugn.ncsu.edu (Ted H. Emigh) Newsgroups: sci.misc,sci.bio,soc.women Subject: Re: Univerrsal Common Female Ancestor Message-ID: <672@ncsugn.ncsu.edu> Date: Sat, 10-Oct-87 22:15:39 EDT Article-I.D.: ncsugn.672 Posted: Sat Oct 10 22:15:39 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Oct-87 21:21:48 EDT References: <894@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: emigh@ncsugn.UUCP (Ted H. Emigh) Organization: Genetics, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC Lines: 35 Keywords: update on mitochondrail eve, big mama lives Xref: mnetor sci.misc:539 sci.bio:719 soc.women:7743 In article <894@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> elturner@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin L Turner) writes: > >In 1983 there was a fairly extensive discussion of the above referenced >topic started by an article I posted which I reproduce, in part, below: > >-All living people (or at least ~99% of them) have a single common female >-ancestor on their purely maternal line. In other words, tracing back to >-one's mother's mother's mother's ... mother will bring everyone back to a >-single individual woman. She is estimated to have lived between 50,000 and >-500,000 years ago. >- [Material left out] >... It >remains true that the result suggests that our species has had at least one >rather close brush with extinction, direct or statistical. Just because we have common ancestors does not mean that we have had a "close brush with extinction". Not even close. No more so than any other organism on this planet. Notice that the time from divergence was measured by the accumulation of mutations. It is this accumulation (among other factors) that keep the genetic diversity of the species. Also, remember that the size of the human mitochondrial DNA is about 65K bases, while the entire genome is about 3 BILLION (US Billion, really 1000 Million) bases. While the EVE model is an interesting 'fact' it is hardly the stuff to force us to rethink human evolution. I teach it in my General Genetics and Population Genetics classes to drive home the point of the extreme difficulty in understanding MACRO evolution by completely understanding MICRO evolution. -- Ted H. Emigh, Dept. Genetics and Statistics, NCSU, Raleigh, NC uucp: mcnc!ncsuvx!ncsugn!emigh internet: emigh%ncsugn.ncsu.edu BITNET: NEMIGH@TUCC @ncsuvx.ncsu.edu:emigh@ncsugn.ncsu.edu