Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!oberon!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!decvax!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Godel (short) Message-ID: <2474@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Oct-87 18:51:49 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.2474 Posted: Fri Oct 9 18:51:49 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Oct-87 21:48:59 EDT References: <2362@sphinx.uchicago.edu> <1094@vaxb.calgary.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT. Lines: 17 In article <1094@vaxb.calgary.UUCP> radford@calgary.UUCP (Radford Neal) writes: >[Re: proof of undecidability by unsolvability of the halting problem] >It also avoids the tricky self-reference stuff, though there's a >bit of that in the proof of the halting problem itself. There is, in fact, every bit as much tricky self-reference in the proof of the unsolvability of the halting problem as there is in Goedel's incompleteness proof. These two proofs (undecidability of formal systems and unsolvability of the halting problem) are so similar that I have always considered them essentially the same, although I haven't ever tried to see exactly how parallel they are. -- Frank Adams ihnp4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Ashton-Tate 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108